You are logged in as a guest. ( ) What's your favorite New Holland square baler? Any age.:: - Message format Posted 6/13/2015 14:07 (#4624300) Subject: What's your favorite New Holland square baler? Looking for a square baler. (small squares ) Things are changing in the operation and will have the need to bale 1500-2000 bales a year.

• New Holland Baler Manual Pdf
• New Holland 69 Baler Manual

Don't care about age of machine. Reason I say that is because a few specialized machine shop/companies have gotten smart and make 99% of the NLA part CNH have decided to stop making and reasonably priced. And I have run into some really really nice older balers in the last 6 months on accident very reasonably priced and not totally worn out as you would expect.

I'm just not up on new holland balers the good and the bad models. Primary use would be mixed grass hay and grass/alfalfa blend. Always seems like people come out of the wood work looking for people to bail straw when barley and wheat come off. Want to leave option open at least.

No corn stalks period. Otherwise open to suggestions, at this point I really don't want to sink a lot of money into a machine, they arnt super complicated and can work/maintain it myself in the off season.

Its a new direction and want to keep it simple. TIA Posted 6/13/2015 14:58 (#4624354 - in reply to #4624300) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler?

WCOH 570-575. Posted 6/13/2015 16:00 (#4624413 - in reply to #4624354) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler? Lincoln County.

Content: Critical every day use and preventative maintenance information for your New Holland 69 Super Hayliner Baler. In general, Operator's Manuals usually.

1. Buy Now: Tractor Components Shop Manual. This tractor components manual provides general overhaul and troubleshooting data as well as specifications for pre-1970 farm tractor components, including: carburetors, clutches, distributors, generators, magnetos, regulators, relays, starting motors, starting switches, and valve rotators.
2. New Holland 69 and 69 Super Hayliner Manual. New Holland Baler Knotters - Service Manual. Engine and PTO Balers; Engine Lubrication; PTO Drive.

NC -gotta change the mapdot. GuernseyGuy - 6/13/2015 14:58 570-575. But a few years before the end of the run so as to avoid Chinese bearings. Posted 6/13/2015 15:08 (#4624363 - in reply to #4624300) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler? Had a 273 years ago that was a good baler Posted 6/13/2015 15:12 (#4624370 - in reply to #4624363) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler? Eastern North Carolina 575 Posted 6/13/2015 15:32 (#4624390 - in reply to #4624370) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler?

Central ohio.between Springville and Millbrook. Bc5070 hay liner will bale 2000 in 7 hrs. Or if u wanna save some $ just get a 575. 570's are just as reliable.just a narrower pickup reel.

There isn't much to improve on since the 575 came out! Once you get back to the vintage of the 273, 276, 316, 320's you get into tine side delivery instead of rotor delivery, as well as chain drive knitters instead of gear drive. Although these systems were still decent machines, for the extra money you spend on a 5xx series.U it pays to go newer. Josh Moorefield Edited by HeyhayJCM 6/13/2015 15:37 Posted 6/13/2015 16:01 (#4624414 - in reply to #4624390) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler? Lincoln County.

NC -gotta change the mapdot. HeyhayJCM - 6/13/2015 15:32 Bc5070 hay liner will bale 2000 in 7 hrs. Or if u wanna save some $ just get a 575. 570's are just as reliable.just a narrower pickup reel. There isn't much to improve on since the 575 came out! Once you get back to the vintage of the 273, 276, 316, 320's you get into tine side delivery instead of rotor delivery, as well as chain drive knitters instead of gear drive.

Although these systems were still decent machines, for the extra money you spend on a 5xx series.U it pays to go newer. Josh Moorefield All NH small square balers have chain drive knotters. The front chain on 500 series and later balers drives everything except the plunger and (if equipped ) thrower. Edited by RickB 6/13/2015 16:02 Posted 6/13/2015 16:47 (#4624484 - in reply to #4624414) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler? Central ohio.between Springville and Millbrook. I was referring to the chain/gear drives that are immidiatly in advance of knotter. 5xx series and up are drivin by gear and are more reliable Josh Moorefield Posted 6/13/2015 17:55 (#4624588 - in reply to #4624484) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler?

Lincoln County. NC -gotta change the mapdot. HeyhayJCM - 6/13/2015 16:47 I was referring to the chain/gear drives that are immidiatly in advance of knotter.

5xx series and up are drivin by gear and are more reliable Josh Moorefield I know what you meant. I wrenched on these balers for 15 years and now I sell parts for them. Knotters won't turn without that front chain. That would be the one out of sight, that next to nobody oils or adjusts. That wonderful gear drive isn't reliable when the Chinese bearings on the front gear's jackshaft grenade. That said, the 570/575/BC5060/BC5070 are hard to beat and impossible to match for capacity.

Edited by RickB 6/13/2015 18:03 Posted 6/13/2015 15:43 (#4624398 - in reply to #4624300) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler? Southern MN This is too old for you, but the models 69 through 271 were all pretty much the same baler, and were good for their day. Older than that had odder feeding mechanism you don't want to mess with. And newer than that gets into the narrower time pickup and faster machines and probably what you are looking for. I forget the model numbers, but there was a 'faster bigger' version and a 'slow and steady' version of the newer ones, it seems the faster versions hammered themselves up pretty bad over the years, the slow and steady version held up longer and was still a good fast enough baler for our size operations? There has been the same 270 on this farm my whole life, it makes 500-5000 bales a year.

Its a nice match for a 35-50hp tractor, and someone who doesn't need to set land speed records. But, I think you are looking for a little newer than that. Paul Posted 6/14/2015 07:11 (#4625329 - in reply to #4624398) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler? The New Holland 270 square baler was the first square baler I ran on our farm. Pull it with a Massey Ferguson 35 diesel.

It did a good job back in late seventies and early eighties. Got replace by a John Deere 24T square baler.

Then in 1987 the hay was being put up in rolls with a Vermeer 605F brought at a farm auction in February and pull by a MF 275 tractor. Posted 6/14/2015 14:33 (#4626017 - in reply to #4625329) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler? Southern MN So my hay equipment is the nh 270 and a 605F. The round baler is just wore out, I gotta replace that. Small timer here, can't pencil out much, but the 605 is down to not starting a bale any more. The 270 is still a good baler. Paul Posted 6/13/2015 16:09 (#4624428 - in reply to #4624300) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler?

The rapidly vanishing farmland of Boone Co. 273 Still have one and do 2-3000 bales a year with it. Easy to work on and good parts availability. Although I've never owned one, a 315 is a good baler as well.

Posted 6/13/2015 16:23 (#4624450 - in reply to #4624300) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler? ND I've got a 276 that gets a 1000 bales a year through it. Works good and gets babied. It would be hard to replace the old girl. Posted 6/13/2015 16:28 (#4624458 - in reply to #4624300) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler? Central michigan We have had a super 66,two 65 compact, 268,270,271 and a 570. The 570 is far the best for speed, but the compact 65 balers made smaller bales that when we picked up all by hand the help REALLY liked.

Posted 6/13/2015 16:33 (#4624465 - in reply to #4624300) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler? Northern IL For the $100 we paid for it, I can't complain about our 270 hayliner. We even got an old darf wheel rake with it. With a little bit of elbow grease the old stuff can truck along just fine.

Posted 6/13/2015 16:40 (#4624474 - in reply to #4624300) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler? NH 515 deutz diesel power and Rankin one wheeler, cross feed and knoter updates Posted 6/13/2015 16:46 (#4624481 - in reply to #4624300) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler? Southern Minnesota Between Freeborn & Wells Nobody said a 77. Most here are probably too young to know of them.

I remember them but was too young to have to work behind them. Posted 6/13/2015 17:05 (#4624518 - in reply to #4624481) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler? West Central Illinois I wore out a 77 & an 80 which was a wire tie of the same era. You're talking mid 1950s. Posted 6/13/2015 20:26 (#4624811 - in reply to #4624518) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler? NE OHIO Bought one when I was in high school along about 1967 it had a Wisc.

4 cylinder engine and hydraulic tension think they called it a super 77. Pulled it with a International Super C. Made a lot of hay that summer, the hydraulic tension worked great. Put a different cam in the knotters to shorten the bales. The bales came out on their side as the needles went side to side not bottom to top as they do on most balers. That old machine could really stuff the bales and I would have to say it was my favorite baler. Posted 6/14/2015 06:06 (#4625256 - in reply to #4624518) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler?

Southern Minnesota Between Freeborn & Wells. Dutchman - 6/13/2015 16:05 I wore out a 77 & an 80 which was a wire tie of the same era. You're talking mid 1950s. Didn't realize there was a model 80 using wire. Yes, the time frame is right. Neighbors had a Deere baler that used wire.

I don't remember if it was 2 or 3 wires. For whatever reason we had them bale some oat straw one year. They could really pack the straw into each bale. I think disposing of the wire was somewhat of a problem.

There must have been other problems as well as I never heard or saw any other wire tie balers around here. Back to the 77's. Back many years ago there was a sweet corn processing plant in the next town. Originally they made a stack for the cobs/husks for silage right at the plant. Later the City complained too much and they had to have the silage hauled out. A couple of guys decided to make a business out of this.

They bought a pull-type Fox chopper and mounted it semi-permanently at the plant in town. It was run by an electric motor and the chopped silage was hauled by trucks out to one of the guy's farms to make a stack there. They used some of the silage themselves and sold to others. This went on that way for a few years. The problem was that the chopped silage that they were hauling out contained lots of water. The water leaked out of the trucks through town on the way to the farm.

The city folks were not very happy with that arrangement as the waste water on the road created several nasty problems. The solution seemed to be to remove the water from the silage at the plant where they had a large lagoon system to handle their waste water. Rather than buy a commercial squeezer, these guys bought an old 77 baler and set it up beside the Fox chopper. The wet chopped silage went from the Fox chopper to the 77 baler.

197080 G-series 197081 2G40 HATZ 2G40 Diesel Engine Spare Parts. 197082 2G40, 2G40H HATZ 2G40, 2G40H Diesel Engine Instruction Book. 197090 H-series 197091 4H50TIC HATZ 4H50TIC Diesel Diesel Engine Operator's Manual. Hatz diesel repair manual e 673.

The tension on the bale chamber was set to about nothing but the friction of pushing the silage through the baler caused much of the water to be squeezed out. Some troughs were fabricated to direct that water into the lagoon system. This dryer silage was then hauled to the farm. This worked for a few years. Later the guys got out of the business and another company got involved.

They had special trucks that literally had tanks on them that caught the waste water that leaked out of the load. When they got to the field to spread it or to the stack to dump it, the waste water was dumped somewhere on the farm. Now the plant has closed and the silage story is over. Posted 6/13/2015 17:09 (#4624524 - in reply to #4624300) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler?

NW KS/ SC ID try to avoid the smaller lighter ones, as they were built lighter. They all still work, but the bigger ones are more 'commerical grade' like a 277 is better than a 275, same deal with 278 versus 276. We have a 273 we scored at an auction cheap, and I think its the same era as the 275 and 277, and it seems pretty light duty and weak.

Of course the real solution is to buy a Hesston.; ) Posted 6/13/2015 17:18 (#4624541 - in reply to #4624300) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler? Chilliwack, British Columbia I would go straight to a 575, that big pickup is nice! And you can really pound the bales threw if you needed to. Love ours, just am not too fond of the product it puts out! Too much dang work! Glenn Posted 6/13/2015 17:18 (#4624542 - in reply to #4624300) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler? 320, 326,575 Posted 6/13/2015 17:49 (#4624581 - in reply to #4624300) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler?

West Ky, on Eddy Creek If you are going to bale straw behind a combine, better get a 575. I bale behind a 9500 with a 575 and the pickup is just wide enough. Posted 6/13/2015 18:03 (#4624595 - in reply to #4624581) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler? Cedar rapids, ia.

Had a Super 68, that was a great baler, traded it for a 273, over rated junk, then went to a 315, much better. Baled 50-60,000 bales/year. Posted 6/13/2015 21:40 (#4624967 - in reply to #4624595) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler?

Eastern Michigan Don't get a 326 if your baling behind a rotary combine mine has a hard time with short fine straw won't feed through, other then that I like the baker on hay Posted 6/13/2015 18:11 (#4624606 - in reply to #4624300) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler? SeMN We got an old 268 and it still ties bales, likes to shear pins every 400 bales though. Posted 6/13/2015 20:37 (#4624835 - in reply to #4624300) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler? 575, it flat eats hay and makes nice bales, maybe above your price range, put three quarters of a million bales thru a 273, light slow baler but it still worked well for a long long time.

On the 2xx look for the long tongue with the extra U-joint, older than that you would have to find a jewel to be worth fooling with. Posted 6/13/2015 20:55 (#4624865 - in reply to #4624300) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler? North Central OH 575, have one that's 25 years old had 3,000-10,000 bales a year thru it and has only been touched once and that was preventative maintenance. If you don't need the big pickup the 570 should be just as good, but for straw you will want it. Posted 6/13/2015 22:23 (#4625056 - in reply to #4624865) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler? We beat the hell out of our 565. Good baler for everything we put it through, which was a lot.

Posted 6/14/2015 00:51 (#4625191 - in reply to #4624300) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler? Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot Really I don't think NH ever made a good small square. Actually, the jury is still out on whether or not they ever made any decent square balers. The latest 3x4's seem to be okay thus far.

I know you don't have a lot to bale, but Hesston rules the small square market. For good reason. Might cost too much up front, but if your only going to have one baler, when hay is ready you don't want to be mechanicing. I'd strongly consider looking at a Hesston. I say that as a guy who has four New Holland's sitting in the field. I make it work since I've been around them for a long time, and myself and neighbors have learned all the little things to watch and fix.

One of mine is nothing but a spare, it sits hooked to a tractor ready to go. And we use it fairly often. Neighbor has a spare ready to go as well, and I've had to go get his.

Other friend runs 8, and he has two spares. These are 515's, which were the last try by NH after three prior generations and 'updates'. You get the idea. If I really only wanted to have one, it wouldn't be a NH. Posted 6/14/2015 05:52 (#4625250 - in reply to #4625191) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler?

Central ohio.between Springville and Millbrook. Ben D, N CA - 6/14/2015 00:51 Really I don't think NH ever made a good small square.

Actually, the jury is still out on whether or not they ever made any decent square balers. The latest 3x4's seem to be okay thus far.

I know you don't have a lot to bale, but Hesston rules the small square market. For good reason. Might cost too much up front, but if your only going to have one baler, when hay is ready you don't want to be mechanicing. I'd strongly consider looking at a Hesston. I say that as a guy who has four New Holland's sitting in the field.

I make it work since I've been around them for a long time, and myself and neighbors have learned all the little things to watch and fix. One of mine is nothing but a spare, it sits hooked to a tractor ready to go. And we use it fairly often. Neighbor has a spare ready to go as well, and I've had to go get his. Other friend runs 8, and he has two spares.

These are 515's, which were the last try by NH after three prior generations and 'updates'. You get the idea.

If I really only wanted to have one, it wouldn't be a NH. On what basis do u say that? When I was running 570's I bought a case 8530 just to try one out.it couldn't keep up. Then 2 years ago agco brought some big massey/Hesston prototype out that they said would 'make my new hollands look stupid' it showed up and we put it in the field right beside a bc5070 hay liner and I asked the rep how fast to drive.

He said 'well until u get used to it just go same gear as 5070 for a round but then jump it up a gear and you'll fall in love' I never could match the speed of the 5070 hayliner.aand after 2 hrs of baling, when I tried, the packer literally exploded from being overloaded and they hauled it away on a trailer! It even took out the stripper shields that the packer ran in.

I'm not trying to start a color war here. And i respect your opinion.but I'm just curious why you say Hesston is so much better in the small baler market?? New Holland has sure sold alot of balers for having 'Never built a good baler ' I guess I'm just wondering WHAT makes them better?? Honestly.I WANT to like hesston/agco/ massey balers because of their simpler design.and I will be the 1st to admit they make a nicer looking bale.but when factoring in speed, reliability, and resale value I don't think they can go up against a New Holland of any comparable vintage. Maybe it's a 'here' thing?? Josh Moorefield Edited by HeyhayJCM 6/14/2015 09:05 Posted 6/14/2015 15:00 (#4626047 - in reply to #4625250) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler? Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot My experience is with 3 tie machines.

There is only one farm here with 2 tie, and probably well over 100, maybe 200 three tie balers in this end of the valley. Like I said, I run NH 515's.

They are okay, but you have to know 515's to keep them running. We put turbo's on them, lots of little bearing, chain changes, aftermarket updates, etc. Even then, they aren't exactly reliable. Between myself and one of my customers who runs 8, we have more parts inventory than NH. And spare balers.

They still can't keep up with a Hesston, although with the turbo'd machines we can come close. There are, at times, a slight marketing advantage to the conventional side feed balers in the export market. But you have to have the right kind of hay, and a good reputation and history to take advantage of that. Even with all of that, it still gets old running them. Lots of little issues need fixed constantly.

We usually bale 1000-1500 bales/day. For a couple weeks. My customers often bale 3000/day, and they do that for weeks on end. Something always needs fixed with that much volume. Freeman balers are popular here as well, and they are built extremely well. But the Hesston's have pretty much taken over what is left of the three tie market.

I know guys who never really do any maintenance, and still the Hesston's just run and run. They are more reliable, have more capacity, make better bales, and are much, much easier to run. That alone is very important, if you are running a fleet of balers finding good operators is somewhat of a challenge. So having something that is easy for a steering wheel holder to figure out is pretty important. There is more big balers here all the time. Used to be the hay was worth a little less, and the off quality market (beef cattle guys ) all wanted 3 tie.

Then they figured out how much easier big bales were, and now it can be a challenge to move off grade hay in 3 tie. Dairy's definitely prefer big bales, and the export market is taking more big bales all the time. As farm size increases, more hay farmers have big enough tractors to run big balers, so being able to replace 3 small balers with one doesn't mean also buying a big tractor. For guys like myself that are smaller farmers, finding enough bodies to keep small balers going is an issue. A guy and his wife can put up a lot of hay with one baler, without additional help, with one big baler. The NH big balers were also pretty much a flop. I can't think of anyone running them anymore.

One neighbor bought the newest NH big baler, and it has a lot of good things, well built and so far reliable. Everyone else runs a Hesston, and NH will really have to be a good machine to break into that market as well. Posted 6/14/2015 18:02 (#4626331 - in reply to #4626047) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler?

Alberta, Canada 3 tie machines. I have no experience with. OP was asking about 2 tie small square balers. We've Run NH for 40 years and though the old 278's and 320's worked the 575's are so MUCH NICER less up keep and heavy duty balers. Baling the hay is the least of my concerns its controlling the weather here. Here there is no market for 3 tie bales in the pet food market (horses ) but for export it maybe an option for sure.

Posted 6/14/2015 08:17 (#4625436 - in reply to #4624300) Subject: RE: What's your favorite New Holland square baler? Ncia I own a super 78. My dad bought it new and I bought it from him. It must be 50 years old at least.

2 years ago was last time I used it. Jump to forum:.

New Holland Baler Manual Pdf

New Holland 65 66 68 69 77 78 80 87 268 270 271 280 1280 Baler Repair Manual Set. 9 months ago. Posted in:. Author:.

New Holland 69 Baler Manual

Tags:, This is an ORIGINAL New Holland Baler & Other Implements Service Repair Manual set (November 1962 printing, very hard to find). This manual set has super illustrations as well as having in-depth service, repair, tear down, and specification information for these hard working NH balers and implements covering the entire machines from A-Z. The covers are nice as are the splines. This set contains 320 pages that are complete and very clean.

This manual set comes complete and is in VERY GOOD overall condition. The item “NEW HOLLAND 65 66 68 69 77 78 80 87 268 270 271 280 1280 BALER REPAIR MANUAL SET” is in sale since Thursday, January 25, 2018. This item is in the category “Business & Industrial Heavy Equipment Parts & Accs Manuals & Books”.

The seller is “krissyskountrykollectibles” and is located in Sandwich, Illinois. This item can be shipped worldwide. Type: Complete Service Manual Set. Equipment Type: BALER. Brand: NEW HOLLAND. Model Year: 1962 PRINTING, rare.

Compatible Equipment Type: Tractor. Compatible Equipment Make: New Holland.

Model: 65 66 68 69 77 78 80 87 268 270 271 280 1280.